Category: the Rant Board
Look I know that for the most part, I'm going to get shitt for posting this. Why hell, in fact it's probable that we've all heard it before. But I'd like to first start out, by saying there is a pretty defined difference between drama and just straight up shitt talking. By shitt talking, I mean those who act like they own the wirld -- you know who you are. People, who spend more time bitching at your exzistence and less time growing up. Particuarly on the zone at times. For instence on zbp... I know folks who get called a pussy and a cunt 24 7 and yet there afraid to come on here because certain individuals feel the need to be bastards. And the irony, I find of it all for most haters in genral. Is
one You usually don't have the balls to say it to some ones face.
and 2 You, can't even explain why the fuck you hate them in the first place.
I'm not saying, that the name calling it's self for which involved pisses me off. More or less the fact, that people can't grow up and learn to live and let live. They have to go on antagonizing the situation even further. And I'm thinking in a sence this could be part of the reason why suisside rates are sky rocketing. Of the simple fact, that in such a judging conformity society the people ar prevoked to a certain extent of a point where it becomes impossible to be accepted less you are a member of some ones oh so prioritized click. And according to investigation, this kind of agression or bitching out others may have been what cause the columbine shootings forcing those guys to go a bit screwy in the head. Look, I'm not justifying what they did. But for the haters, as afor mentioned. I'm saying,
Leave the wirld alone god dammet!
haters will be haters. just as you say "live and let live", that applies to them as well.
don't let them steal your shine, and they'll eventually find someone whose they can.
Exactly. Don't associate with those who bring you down and don't let them win by taking the easy way out and killing yourself. That never solved anything. Just be yourself and let them fuck off.
More and more I'm thinking people are mean to or otherwise abusive to others because they want some sort of personal relief or satisfaction. They are not interested in actually trying to, let's say, improve somebody's life by pointing out truths their target doesn't want to admit to. It's all about just getting off. I think waht such folk want is attention and reaction, so perhaps one approach would be to starve such folks from what they desire most.
Just think of it this way: They must have a lot of time on their hands, and a lack of a life if they're going out of their way to find new ways to piss you off. Those who truly have a life don't have the time or patience to get involved in other people's, at least not for the wrong reasons.
If it helps at all, the zone is far from the only place that has drama. Talk to people whose job requires teamwork. Go on Facebook, MySpace, or Youtube and check out some of the comments to videos that have been posted. There's drama everywhere. it's all some people can do to make their boring lives interesting.
I think a lot of people use the anonymity of the internet to say some of the meanest things that they know would get them fired, beaten up and shot to death if they dared say them out loud to anyone. People get very brave behind the keyboard when they know they'll not suffer any real consequences. I mean, they're just typing words, they're not actually hurting real people with real feelings right? Betcha that's how such things are justified.
Especially those who get on the internet to play those multiplayer games. I mean, you can definitely tell who has a life and who doesn't, because those who don't compensate for it by going into a virtual world and talking shit to anyone because that's the only time they feel invinsible and never get to pay for anything they do or say. I'ts obvious people of that category have no self-esteme or dignity.
I have to put in the other side of the coin here. Sometimes people have to grow up and get a thicker skin. Sure, some people take it way too far, but being made fun of in the playground at school doesn't mean you need a counselor, you knock the bully's teeth out, and get the hell over it. I don't see why we're always trying to blame the people doing the so called bullying, when in some cases its not even bullying. Not everyone is going to liek your new haircut, and just because they don't, doesn't mean you need anti-depressant pills. I think its half and half, yes hard core bullying is wrong, but on the other hand, grow up and get a thicker skin, not everything has to be nice and perfect.
I agree with Cody Amelia. Sometimes people take things too seriously. And if some playground bullying or syber drama causes a person to want to kill themselves, then they should just do it. life gets much hahrder than that and if they can't handle those things, they can't handle life in general. just my opinion.
I think a thick skin and a good sense of comfiness in your own skin is crucial for survival. I don't like bullies or abuse, but I will say this and I know I said it elsewhere. Whoever you are, whatever you do and however you do it, there's going to be some clown who comes along to tell you not only how they dislike whatever it is about you, but will make some sweeping judgment about your character, implying you are a bad person through and through for not living up to their idea of standards. These people usually lack credibility and are only saying whatever they do to get a reaction from you so they can feel a false sense of being an elite person. Refuse them what they seek.
Sure thick skin, indeed but let's be honest if some ones going to go out of there way to screw things up. They may not have the mental capacity to get over shitt, but hell this is the rant board after all.
Just my thoughts after a bad day.
I will admit that in earlier days of the web, when I was a kid really, I lacked what we call maturity. And so, I would go on a chat and rip apart certain so and sos. I also got it in return and I learned not to do that because I didn't like it. I also got a thick skin. Now when I come on the zone and somebody says something about me I laugh because it is just the internet.
exactly; a thick skin is the only way you'll successfully get through life.
In a real life situation, most of these persons wouldn't have the guts to say half of what's said via the internet.
I'm the type of person who's not one way online and one way off. I'd like to think that I'm a decent person as well, respecting those who respect me or at least cause me no harm, helping when I can etc. I'm also a very loyal and honest friend. But if someone pushes my buttons, I have no problem bringing them down, preferably by exploiting their weaknesses, fears, bad experiences etc. I don't ever do this to the innocent, only to those who just won't quit bothering me or who've upset me passed the normal arguing or walking away stages. Bullying would be likely to get that response from me.
I, too, am no different online than I am in real life. what you see is what you get; if you don't like it, fine.
I as well am basically the same person. I know I sometimes may come off as blunt but I am basically a good person.
Nothing wrong with being blunt. there's a difference between being blunt, and just being a complete moron. the difference is that those of us who are blunt don't bring down those who don't deserve it. However, I definitely agree that being significantly bothered by those who bring you down just for the sake of bringing you down will never get you anywhere.
I think I'm a little bit different from online to offline. I joke a lots online. but I'm very shy in person. the rest, I'm the same.
Raaj
Yeah, there isn't anything wrong with blunt...I'm guilty of being blunt myself, but when I am being blunt, chances are I may've hurt a particular persons feelings, but when I do hurt their feelings, they know I was being truthful to help them, not hurt them.
The point is, maturity plays a big role online as it does offline.
Personally, I too believe that having a "thick skin" is crucial to surviving life's chalanges and the like; no matter what you do in life, there will always be someone who has something negative to say about what you do and/or say... However, making nonsense judgmental remarks just because it amuses them really agrivates me. If someone asks me for an honest opinion about something, nine times out of ten, I'll give them what they ask for, but for the most part, I do believe that hard-cor bullying comes from people who have poor self-esteem, no life, etc.
So basicly, I just repeeted what everyone else said xD But really, I was gonna say something like that. And, minor bullying in the past (towards me) has taught me to be much tougher nowedays...
Some of you who know me also know I'm almost viciously blunt at times. I don't suffer fools well, and it's a lack of tolerance which sometimes gets people - myself included if things go badly - hurt. I don't like this, but I'm twenty-seven now and past the point where a global personality change is likely. All I can say is that I try to be honest and I never attack anyone with the intent to do harm, even if harm is one of the results. Even if I don't like you and think you need to be set straight, my motivation is not to do you harm, but instead to put a stop to the behaviour I find offensive, distasteful or in some other way unacceptable. I'm aware I probably sound pretty high-handed but that's not how I mean to come across.
Point is: I'm on the fence on this topic. On one hand, people who hate just for its own sake are silly; on the other, people who cry "bully!" when someone's clearly joking need to step back and consider the situation. I'm pretty much the same online and offline, and if I don't know you (or you me) I won't take you seriously unless you give me reason to. I'll talk to you, I'll enjoy it and all, but if you're trying to attack me personally I'll just consider the source and its information (or lack thereof, as the case may be) and react accordingly. I do have a temper but it's very difficult to rouse.
Sounds like the problem also arises from personality conflicts. Sooner or later, people will clash.
Exactly. and that much, at least, is nobody's fault. There are people you will love, people you'll be neutral to, and some people you just can't get along with. As long as you're not being hateful or difficult for the sake of doing so, it really isn't your fault, or their's.
Yup, that's life.
Agreed, Cody.
I think it was Mr. Burns on here who told me if someone hurt you on the internet to "flex your virtual muscles." I think that we have to do this in reallity too, I mean, people will try and drag you down, but who's the bigger person in the end: the one who stands up for themselves or the person who is trying to feel better about themselves? Who actually has the power? I have sort of a pesemistic outlook on life sometimes, and my policy is to just try to take life in stride and deal with what you get, and even though there's a bit of flaw in this, I'm the one who has more power than people trying to hurt me.
Somehow I get the impression there are a lot of very immature small people in the world who are only interested in gaining elite status and power as quickly and cheaply as possible. Such people are most likely stupid punks and jerks and absolute utter fools. I figure if somebody is trying to publicly hurt or berate you or tries to play your friends against you, it's not personal, you were just chosen by a stupid punk who thinks they can gain social favor by knocking others down. Remember, too, that people's behavior is all about themselves. Usually when somebody lays into you with insults and accusations, they are revealing more about themselves than they are about you. Thicken your skin and give them no reaction, and write them off as fools, that's what works for me.
Well it's like the great Jacky Mason said on his YouTube channel. People like that are less likely to say crap in person because in person there's always the possibility that if you did the other person could choose to punch you in the mouth. But online the best they could do is ignore you or cuss you out.
agreed, godzilla-on-toast. i think that's what david aka mr. burns was trying to say too. :)
Some of you may be familear with the term "leet." This is irc chat lingo for cool or "with it." I have been on servers in the past where users would compete for "leet" status and bring others down, adding to their leetness.
this reminds me of elementary school recess: You're not cool enough to be in my club. o yeah? well, my club is better than your club, so you're definitely not cool enough to be in my club. Sound familiar?
Dannie, I pretty much agree with your post...
lol Jes is it? Sorry, bad with names sometimes...
Hmm, Ash how verry detailed. Thank you for the advice folks, I'm learning more and more of that every day. It's best I suppose not to take this place to much in account and live up to be me. Maybe that's what these quote on quote jerkoffs find so appealing there ability to overlook who they truely are.
that goes for real life as well, though. Yes, it happens more often online, but you'll find jerks everywhere; on the street, at school, in the work place. the world is full of jerks, which, at the end of the day, is a good thing, because it's people like these who make it easier to appreciate those who are helpful.
that's verry true.
Yep...
At one time or another, we all express our inner jerk.
So there ya go, rare for me, I just waxed psychological. $100 please?
Sorry, flat busted here. Want a dark chocolate Lindor truffle and some coffee? LOL! I think my inner jerk couldn't stand my laid-back hippie nerd nature and fizzled away in a puff of green smoke or something. LOL!
lol...
Yeah. I have an inner jerk, too, although it won't come out unless the situation at hand is too much for the calmer part of me to deal with.
Sometimes, my inner jerk is awakened and step back!
if my inner jerk comes out, you'll get to know the fallen angel side i say i have, and only one zoner has truly seen it, and they are now scared shitless of me...lol
I think my inner jerk would get constantly beaten up and have its lunch money stolen. LOL! I'm too much the laid-back hippie sort to have one anymore.
lol I wouldn't say I'm a jerk, but I'm a bitch...
That's a good point, in a way. You can be a nice person without being nice all the time. I wasn't very nice to the telemarketer that called me at 3:00 AM, but that doesn't make me a mean person. Mean people are jerks just because they want to be, not because the situation calls for it.
Is a bitch just a female jerk or am I missing something. Always thought a bitch was a woman who would stop at nothing and I mean literally nothing to get what she wanted. Very self-centered and manipulative with no regard for anyone's feelings but her own. If that ain't a bitch, what is that?
I'm a bitch: babe in total control of herself. you betcha!!
Wow there's that saying again.
I couldn't help it; it's one of my favorites.
One of my ex's also. lol.